http://halifaxpolitics.ca/2010/02/01/china-in-the-news-again-a-lot/ Writing about political skulduggery since 2005. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://halifaxpolitics.ca/2010/02/01/china-in-the-news-again-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Waye Mason Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:26:41 +0000 http://halifaxpolitics.ca/?p=447#comment-91 What are they going to do, nuke us? Not a chance. I think that WTO has rules, and should have more rules, around the environment, and actual fair market currency exchange. The yuan is not fairly traded. If we want to buddy up to an emergent superpower, at least India is a commonwealth nation, speaks English, and holds free and fair elections. :) What are they going to do, nuke us? Not a chance. I think that WTO has rules, and should have more rules, around the environment, and actual fair market currency exchange. The yuan is not fairly traded. If we want to buddy up to an emergent superpower, at least India is a commonwealth nation, speaks English, and holds free and fair elections.

]]> http://halifaxpolitics.ca/2010/02/01/china-in-the-news-again-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-890 Waye Mason Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:26:00 +0000 http://halifaxpolitics.ca/?p=447#comment-890 What are they going to do, nuke us? Not a chance. I think that WTO has rules, and should have more rules, around the environment, and actual fair market currency exchange. The yuan is not fairly traded. If we want to buddy up to an emergent superpower, at least India is a commonwealth nation, speaks English, and holds free and fair elections. :) What are they going to do, nuke us? Not a chance. I think that WTO has rules, and should have more rules, around the environment, and actual fair market currency exchange. The yuan is not fairly traded. If we want to buddy up to an emergent superpower, at least India is a commonwealth nation, speaks English, and holds free and fair elections.

]]> http://halifaxpolitics.ca/2010/02/01/china-in-the-news-again-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Don Dobson Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:59:18 +0000 http://halifaxpolitics.ca/?p=447#comment-90 Very interesting Waye and yes, this is very important. Outright criminality may be behind some of these efforts as well as state action. Having hidden switches on the ol' info highway could wreak havoc on our society. Like when US threatens to withhold debt payment or? Latest in NYTimes suggests that US and others security for this is woefully absent. This type of espionage albeit without the extra tech leverage of today is well known, so its not a stretch at all. Been practiced at the corporate level for key industries with more conventional "spymanship" for a long time. (Between lots of countries too not just China)| You know, the cheap thing-I'm thinking that climbing oil soon will put an end to lots of "cheap from afar" as their labor cost advantage will not be enough to overcome energy input cost. Sure, they are quite frankly scary crazy in their behaviour. Military build up very scary. Disengagement leads to...change from pressure within or their leadership will change their stripes??? I don't dig what it has done for North Korea. Wildly different case, I know. Not saying I disagree with you and agree that economic punishment can be effective - just not sure with that crew. I'm thinking some trade with China is morally supportable, but of course if we are cut off, we can't help them though our business and influence positive change. Nor earn some back from them. As you correctly point out they make their own rules as it suits them, starting with their currency (big issue right there) and thats intolerable. Rewarding positive states is always a good idea. I guess enagement/disenagement is a perennial poli sci debate? (Disclosure:Never took any) Very interesting Waye and yes, this is very important. Outright criminality may be behind some of these efforts as well as state action. Having hidden switches on the ol’ info highway could wreak havoc on our society. Like when US threatens to withhold debt payment or? Latest in NYTimes suggests that US and others security for this is woefully absent. This type of espionage albeit without the extra tech leverage of today is well known, so its not a stretch at all. Been practiced at the corporate level for key industries with more conventional “spymanship” for a long time. (Between lots of countries too not just China)| You know, the cheap thing-I’m thinking that climbing oil soon will put an end to lots of “cheap from afar” as their labor cost advantage will not be enough to overcome energy input cost. Sure, they are quite frankly scary crazy in their behaviour. Military build up very scary. Disengagement leads to…change from pressure within or their leadership will change their stripes??? I don’t dig what it has done for North Korea. Wildly different case, I know. Not saying I disagree with you and agree that economic punishment can be effective – just not sure with that crew. I’m thinking some trade with China is morally supportable, but of course if we are cut off, we can’t help them though our business and influence positive change. Nor earn some back from them. As you correctly point out they make their own rules as it suits them, starting with their currency (big issue right there) and thats intolerable. Rewarding positive states is always a good idea. I guess enagement/disenagement is a perennial poli sci debate? (Disclosure:Never took any)

]]> http://halifaxpolitics.ca/2010/02/01/china-in-the-news-again-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-889 Don Dobson Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:59:00 +0000 http://halifaxpolitics.ca/?p=447#comment-889 Very interesting Waye and yes, this is very important. Outright criminality may be behind some of these efforts as well as state action. Having hidden switches on the ol' info highway could wreak havoc on our society. Like when US threatens to withhold debt payment or? Latest in NYTimes suggests that US and others security for this is woefully absent. This type of espionage albeit without the extra tech leverage of today is well known, so its not a stretch at all. Been practiced at the corporate level for key industries with more conventional "spymanship" for a long time. (Between lots of countries too not just China)| You know, the cheap thing-I'm thinking that climbing oil soon will put an end to lots of "cheap from afar" as their labor cost advantage will not be enough to overcome energy input cost. Sure, they are quite frankly scary crazy in their behaviour. Military build up very scary. Disengagement leads to...change from pressure within or their leadership will change their stripes??? I don't dig what it has done for North Korea. Wildly different case, I know. Not saying I disagree with you and agree that economic punishment can be effective - just not sure with that crew. I'm thinking some trade with China is morally supportable, but of course if we are cut off, we can't help them though our business and influence positive change. Nor earn some back from them. As you correctly point out they make their own rules as it suits them, starting with their currency (big issue right there) and thats intolerable. Rewarding positive states is always a good idea. I guess enagement/disenagement is a perennial poli sci debate? (Disclosure:Never took any) Very interesting Waye and yes, this is very important. Outright criminality may be behind some of these efforts as well as state action. Having hidden switches on the ol’ info highway could wreak havoc on our society. Like when US threatens to withhold debt payment or? Latest in NYTimes suggests that US and others security for this is woefully absent. This type of espionage albeit without the extra tech leverage of today is well known, so its not a stretch at all. Been practiced at the corporate level for key industries with more conventional “spymanship” for a long time. (Between lots of countries too not just China)| You know, the cheap thing-I’m thinking that climbing oil soon will put an end to lots of “cheap from afar” as their labor cost advantage will not be enough to overcome energy input cost. Sure, they are quite frankly scary crazy in their behaviour. Military build up very scary. Disengagement leads to…change from pressure within or their leadership will change their stripes??? I don’t dig what it has done for North Korea. Wildly different case, I know. Not saying I disagree with you and agree that economic punishment can be effective – just not sure with that crew. I’m thinking some trade with China is morally supportable, but of course if we are cut off, we can’t help them though our business and influence positive change. Nor earn some back from them. As you correctly point out they make their own rules as it suits them, starting with their currency (big issue right there) and thats intolerable. Rewarding positive states is always a good idea. I guess enagement/disenagement is a perennial poli sci debate? (Disclosure:Never took any)

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